Wednesday, May 17, 2023

Jewish Boxing Blog's Profile of My Grandfather


These were tough hardscrabble times for the children of immigrants at the turn of the 20th century. Two fights in two days-and the resultant injuries. But, his great grandchildren are both highly accomplished PhD's. Such is the path.


Any Place, Any Time: The Alf Mansfield Story

Alf Mansfield battled the legendary Jimmy Wilde three times during his highly active ten-year career as a prizefighter. The British bantamweight's career effectively came to an end when he was disqualified during a fight and subsequently suspended, all while going blind.

Born Alfred Hyman, we don't know his exact date of birth. One record suggests a man by the same name was born in 1893 in London and passed in 1952, but Alf's grandson Michael believes his grandfather visited the family in New York after 1952. Suffice it to say, Alf was born somewhere between the late 1880s and early-mid 1890s.

Alf Hyman kept his first name but fought under the surname Mansfield when he stepped into the ring for the first time as a pro on March 6, 1910 at the Judaen Athletic Club in London. Another Jewish flyweight from the Aldgate section of London had gotten his start at the club the year before. Ted 'Kid' Lewis would go on to become one of the greatest boxers of all-time. Mansfield's start was less auspicious. Debutant Jack Davis stopped him in the fourth round.

Alf Mansfield
After beginning his career 3-2, Mansfield failed to notch a victory in any of his next twelve bouts. Managing to last the distance in each of those fights, he was receiving important on-the-job training. A points victory in a  ten-rounder over Harry Mansfield on April 27, 1911 in Fulham snapped the dubious streak.

Alf won only one of his next nine bouts, all at the Judaen club. It seemed as if Mansfield should choose a new profession, but he quickly improved. After several good performances early in 1912, he graduated to Premierland, quickly becoming a revered venue for boxing. There Alf split a pair with the estimable Kid Kelly, who, despite the name, was also a Jew from London. Mansfield ultimately took three out of five bouts against the flyweight contender.

Throughout his career, there was a perpetual debate in the papers about whether Mansfield was "clever," with some using the adjective to describe him and others specifically claiming he wasn't. But no one ever questioned his toughness. In January of 1912, he fought eight times, including on back-to-back days... twice! In February, he took on another frequent opponent. Mansfield drew with fellow Londoner Dido Gains on February 10. The two would fight ten times; Mansfield had the upper hand after the first eight bouts with a 3-1-4 record, but Gains took the last two to even the score.

From November 11, 1912 when he took a ten-rounder over Gains, until the next March, Mansfield lost only one of nine fights. Over the next year and half, Alf continued to fight often. He won more than he lost, but suffered two stoppage losses at the hands of Percy Jones, an undefeated Welshman who would soon win the British, European, and world flyweight crowns.
On April 27, 1914, Mansfield took on another undefeated Welshman, Jimmy Wilde. Wilde, who held the world flyweight championship from 1916 until 1923, has been rated as the best flyweight in history by the IBRO and a top 20 pound-for-pound all-time great by both Ring Magazine and the IBRO. The bout between Mansfield and Wilde was scheduled for twenty (two-minute) rounds.

Wilde won the decision, but some in the crowd, primarily Mansfield supporters, believed that Alf deserved the nod. It was an indication of just how far Mansfield had come in boxing.

The next time Alf fought Wilde, war had broken out across the world. It isn't clear if Mansfield joined the Royal Armed Forces, but he was certainly active in the ring during the war. Soldiers in Britain had to be 19 years old, so it's possible that Mansfield wasn't old enough to join in 1914. He suffered plenty of injuries in the ring which may have disqualified him from service as well.

On October 2, 1914, Alf took on Wilde again, but he couldn't repeat his inspired performance of six months earlier. The fight was called for Wilde after ten of a scheduled fifteen rounds. That started a streak of four losses for Mansfield, including two to Dido Gains, the last times they would meet in the ring.

In 1915, Mansfield traveled to the United States. In St. Nicholas Arena in New York, he hit Abe Friedman on the break and was disqualified in the tenth and final round. He soon traveled to Pennsylvania where he fought in several no-decision bouts. On March 16, 1916, he boxed well in a six-round no-decision bout against Johnny Ertle, who held a claim of the world bantamweight title. Most newspapers felt the Brit deserved the win. After several more fights, Alf dropped a non-title affair in July to another claimant of the world bantamweight championship, Kid Williams, in Baltimore.

Fighting constantly, Mansfield came back to the United Kingdom in October of 1916. A year later, he split a pair of long decisions with a man named Walter Young Ross. Alf's third and final fight against Jimmy Wilde came on May 16, 1919 in a non-title bout. Mansfield held a 13-pound advantage.

His grandson Michael said that Alf had vivid memories of the fight. Mansfield later believed it was akin to the first fight between Joe Louis and Billy Conn where Alf was up on points before getting stopped just as Conn had. One contemporary source praised Mansfield's super-human ability to take punishment against Wilde. Other sources were even kinder. One said, "General opinion stated that it was the hardest fight Jimmy Wilde ever took part in." Another reporter claimed, "Mansfield is not so young as he used to be, a rather battered fellow is he; but I doubt there is anybody, except Wilde, who could beat him at his weight."

Another gushed, "As for Alf Mansfield, the last has not been heard of the plucky Aldgate lad, and it is quite expected that he may shortly secure the flyweight championship." It was not to be.
Two weeks after Mansfield's corner stopped the Wilde fight in the thirteenth round, he lost a stinker to Arthur Young Bishop in an eliminator for the British flyweight title. One reporter asserted Mansfield looked like "an impossible novice." The reporter continued, "Mansfield and Bishop had done their best to kill our love of boxing." Oof!

On July 21, 1919, Mansfield was disqualified in the thirteenth of a scheduled twenty (two-minute) rounds against a good prospect named Jack Kid Doyle. Mansfield was stopped a week later against an inexperienced opponent.

That fall, a hearing on the DQ against Doyle took place. A newspaper reported:

"Mansfield was declared by the referee to have been guilty of an inexcusable foul, and everybody who saw the contest spoke severely about it. The Board of Control decided that they would go into the matter, and last Tuesday, they held their inquest. Mansfield stated his case, the evidence of various responsible people was taken and carefully considered, and the verdict was suspension of Mansfield for three years. This is a severe sentence but the severity seems to have been merited and justified." 

The suspension appears to have been reduced to one year on appeal. Mansfield fought for the final time, and the first time in sixteen months- by far the longest layoff of his career- on November 8, 1920. He was pulled out of the fight against Walter Young Ross after just ten minutes.

According to BoxRec, Mansfield finished his ten-year career with a record of 63-60-25 (including newspaper decisions).

In 1926, Alf married Hannah Salkind. The couple brought two daughters into the world. Prizefighting had not been kind to him, though. Mansfield possessed cauliflower ear. He became blind in both eyes because of boxing. In 1932, he traveled to Paris, France in the hopes that Professor Tariean could repair his sight. The procedure worked for a bit, but Alf's eyesight soon degenerated. During that period, Alf and Hannah ran a business together selling ointments and salves to those with arthritis.

His grandson Michael remembers Alf traversing the Atlantic and visiting him in New York in the 1950s. Michael recalls his grandfather looking much older than a man of about 60. Alf spent his remaining years in a nursing home. We don't know exactly when he passed at this time.
Alf Mansfield in old age
Alf Mansfield's legacy is one of trial by fire, resulting in tremendous improvement over the course of his career. He took on all comers during his time in the ring. He gave the greatest flyweight of all-time all he could handle. But Alf's story reminds us of the unforgiving price this brutal sport that we love can have on its combatants. It's a price we should never ignore.


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"The World of Sport: London June 5." South China Morning Post. Jul 15, 1919.
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A special thanks to Alf Mansfield's grandson Michael Sheppard who provided all pictures and great information.

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Thursday, April 20, 2023


  There were 29 Dem candidates in 2020. How many GOP candidates will run in 2024 will be instructive.

Here are the first TEN in a constantly updated list to come.

Yes he exists;

Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson announces 2024 presidential run

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Saturday, March 4, 2023

Utter ChatGPT Failure On Basic Political History-I Beat The Machine

 AI loses-I win!


"I advised John F. Kennedy would have won the 1960 presidential election by winning Illinois in the context of my statement that no VP candidate had an Electoral college effect on the outcome of any presidential election if his home state went to the top of the ticket. Advising of Johnson's wider influence on the outcome is irrelevant to that premise."

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I understand your statement that no VP candidate had an Electoral college effect on the outcome of any presidential election if his home state went to the top of the ticket, and that your advice was specifically related to the role of the VP candidate in the outcome of the 1960 presidential election in Illinois.

It is true that John F. Kennedy won the 1960 presidential election by a narrow margin, and that Illinois was a critical state in that election. Kennedy won Illinois by a margin of only 8,858 votes, which was less than 0.3% of the total vote in the state. The Democratic machine in Chicago, led by Mayor Richard J. Daley, played a key role in securing the state for Kennedy.

It is also true that Lyndon B. Johnson, as the Democratic VP candidate, had a wider influence on the outcome of the 1960 presidential election, beyond just his home state of Texas. Johnson was a powerful figure in the Democratic Party and had strong connections throughout the South. His presence on the ticket helped to unite the party and win over Southern voters who might have otherwise voted for the Republican candidate, Richard Nixon.

While it is certainly true that Johnson's influence on the outcome of the 1960 presidential election went beyond just his home state of Texas, your advice was specifically focused on the role of the VP candidate in the outcome of the election in Illinois. So, in that context, your advice that Kennedy would have won the election by winning Illinois is accurate.

"Your statement that Johnson campaigning in Ohio helped win the state for Kennedy is incorrect"

I apologize for any confusion. Upon further research, it appears that my previous statement about Johnson's role in helping to win Ohio for Kennedy may not be accurate. While Johnson campaigned in Ohio during the election, it is not clear that his campaigning was a decisive factor in Kennedy's victory in that state.

Kennedy won Ohio by a narrow margin of less than 1%, and there were likely many factors that contributed to his victory, including his strong support among African American voters and his appeals to blue-collar workers in the state. The state was also heavily contested by both campaigns, with both Kennedy and Nixon making multiple visits to Ohio and running extensive advertising campaigns.

It is possible that Johnson's campaigning in Ohio had some impact on the election, but it is difficult to say for sure. In any case, I apologize for any confusion and any incorrect information I may have provided earlier.

You are correct, and I apologize for my mistake. In the 1960 presidential election, Richard Nixon won Ohio with 51.3% of the vote, while John F. Kennedy received 48.6% of the vote. Johnson's campaigning in Ohio would not have influenced the outcome of the election in that state, as Nixon carried the state by a relatively comfortable margin.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, and I apologize for any confusion or incorrect information I may have provided earlier.

"AI still has some work to do as these are basic errors"

As an AI language model, my responses are generated based on my programming and the data I have been trained on. While I strive to provide accurate and helpful information, I am not infallible and may occasionally make mistakes or provide incomplete or inaccurate information.