Monday, July 30, 2012
Cheney Palin Attack Just Part Of Jeb Bush/Palin 2016 Skirmish
Todo el mondo have weighed into Dick Cheney’s and subsequently Liz Cheney’s comments-for and against Sarah Palin having been chosen by John McCain as his running mate in 2008.
Some of the reactions have been unusual and have stood what might have been expected on its head. Of course the Palin haters like Doug Mataconis from Outside the Beltway ran true to form and used Dick Cheney’s comment as an excuse to jump straight in to a Palin bashing column-nothing out of the extraordinary there.
The derangement Palin haters did their thing of course but the surprise was the reaction from the “progressive” left. The reaction from the left was not the expected “Palin is an idiot’ etc. but rather an explosion of hate towards Cheney.
Frankly, Palin is much more of a threat to the left than Cheney, neither of course are running for office, as she is influencing election campaigns and shifting, through her support base in the Tea party, the shape of the Senate into significantly conservative territory as one after another of her endorse candidates wins their primaries.
But such is the bitter hatred the left bears for Cheney that Palin is disregarded given this opportunity to recreate and blast all of Cheney’s perceived sins. What has been missed in all this sound and fury is that Cheney’s anti-Palin comment is just another aspect of the forthcoming battle to the death between the establishment and the Tea Party for the 2016 nomination should Romney lose.
The Bush family want Jeb to be the nominee of course which explains Barbara Bush’s snide comment that Palin should “stay in Alaska” it also explains Karl Rove’s Palin bashing.
Palin, Jeb Bush and Chris Christie have all indicated they are open to running in 2016 (which says a lot about their perception of Romney’s current chances) as has Rick Perry.
If these four run then there would be an almighty battle between Bush and Christie for the establishment support/vote and Palin/Perry for the rank and file/Tea party vote. At this time Perry looks very much damaged goods and there is even speculation he might be primaried. If he was, and lost he would of course be out of the running for 2016 and Palin would have a clear field.
What we are seeing is initial skirmishing between the people backing the possible front runners for 2016, if Romney loses then from November 7th the all out battle will commence . It is worth bearing in mind the motivations of the anti-Palin establishment figures and their supporters in the media, when they, like Cheney and any one connected to the Bush family/administration, attack Palin. These factors will become much clearer after November
PDS Afflicted Mataconis Swoons Over Cheney/Palin. No Comment On Palin/Fischer Cruz Though
As would be expected leading Palin derangement Syndrome commentator Doug "I'll be out the back at the bar" Mataconis went in to paroxysms of pleasure at Dick Cheney's comments about Palin.
No mention from him of course regarding Liz Cheney's rebuttal and support of Palin and her denigration of Obama/Biden.
I wouldn't burden anyone with Mataconis's latest anti-Palin screed-he really does seem to have some sort of weird fixation, except for his closing, gloating remark;
The only people who still don’t seem able to acknowledge that are the increasingly shrinking core of Palinistas who bizarrely continue to believe she can do no wrong.
How Mataconis can determine the level of Palin' support is a mystery which he doesn't address. Certainly it is not from Palin's Facebook followers number which is increasing continuously, and is at 3.5 million-five times Romney's BTW.
Nor could it be from examining the result of Palin's recent endorsements, which have resulted in six in a row candidates being elected subsequent to her support, including Fischer and Mourdock who came from way behind.
If Cruz wins, who gives much of the credit to Palin for his success at the moment, that will be a miracle result due significantly to Palin's intervention.
But hey, this is logic, and there is little use in bringing it to bear where illogical thinking reigns in Mataconis land. Perhaps we will hear from Mataconis after Cruz wins-but perhaps not.
No mention from him of course regarding Liz Cheney's rebuttal and support of Palin and her denigration of Obama/Biden.
I wouldn't burden anyone with Mataconis's latest anti-Palin screed-he really does seem to have some sort of weird fixation, except for his closing, gloating remark;
The only people who still don’t seem able to acknowledge that are the increasingly shrinking core of Palinistas who bizarrely continue to believe she can do no wrong.
How Mataconis can determine the level of Palin' support is a mystery which he doesn't address. Certainly it is not from Palin's Facebook followers number which is increasing continuously, and is at 3.5 million-five times Romney's BTW.
Nor could it be from examining the result of Palin's recent endorsements, which have resulted in six in a row candidates being elected subsequent to her support, including Fischer and Mourdock who came from way behind.
If Cruz wins, who gives much of the credit to Palin for his success at the moment, that will be a miracle result due significantly to Palin's intervention.
But hey, this is logic, and there is little use in bringing it to bear where illogical thinking reigns in Mataconis land. Perhaps we will hear from Mataconis after Cruz wins-but perhaps not.
Sunday, July 29, 2012
Politico's Haberman Concedes "Palin Still Has A Following" Ted Cruz Would Agree
Here is the ludicrously Palin Derangement Syndrome afflicted Maggie Haberman at leftist site Politico;
"Palin is nowhere near the relevant force she was even two years ago, but she still has a following."
For the life of me I can't understand why Politico has any following. It is supposed to be a site that covers the political scene but is so leftist biased that it really is just a mouthpiece for the administration. The site was notorious for having "Journalistas" a left wing-cabal of commentators who were totally in the tank for then candidate Obama.
Haberman concedes that "Palin has some influence' which is of course an idiotic, biased understatement if there ever was one.
Her last six endorsed candidates have won, or finished in a run-off Mourdoch/Cruz/Fischer being examples of senate candidates who came from behind, in Cruz's case from way behind, and won after Palin endorsed them. In Cruz's case, and it looks like he will win the run-off. he readily admits that it was palin's influence that made his campaign viable.
There is no way for Haberman or any leftist to spin it otherwise. They tried the "Palin only endorses when it looks like her chosen candidate is going to win" meme but in Cruz and Fischer's case that is, to quote Santorum "bullshit".
Cheney's Daughter Disagrees With Him Re:Palin As Do Dem's.Only Beltway/Haters Agree.
Rarely do I disagree with best VP ever but @SarahPalinUSA more qualified than Obama and Biden combined. Huge respect 4 all she's done 4 GOP.
With the left bashing Dick Cheney for his Palin comment and now his own Daughter disagreeing the former VP's anti-Palin remark seems to have found disfavour across the entire political spectrum. Except of course for the mad haters and the beltway insiders and outsiders who hopeless in their mindless, or calculating (more to come on that) antipathy.
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Here's the leftist view;
Here's Dick Cheney weighing in on Sarah Palin having been chosen as VP candidate for McCain in 2008.
Cheney would not comment on what he told Romney and Myers, but he was harsh in his assessment of McCain’s decision to pick Palin.
“That one,” Cheney said, “I don’t think was well handled.”
“The test to get on that small list has to be, ‘Is this person capable of being president of the United States?’”
Cheney believes Sarah Palin failed that test.
“I like Governor Palin. I’ve met her. I know her. She – attractive candidate. But based on her background, she’d only been governor for, what, two years. I don’t think she passed that test…of being ready to take over. And I think that was a mistake.”
"Hot Air" which has a record of Palin bashing concludes that "the left will be passing the popcorn" because Cheney and Palin are both "beloved by the conservative base." That might usually have been the case if any other figure rather than Cheney had made the statement he did, but in Cheney's case the "progressive" left's abiding hatred of him is so deep and strong that even their hatred for Palin pales into insignificance.
For example, the far left "progressive" site "Crooks & Liars" runs with the Cheney/Palin comment without too much editorializing, but the readers comments are a vast diatribe of hate towards Cheney with Palin hardly mentioned.
Normally Palin would have been the subject of scorn, ridicule, scoffing and hatred but the unbounded venom against Cheney gives her a pass.
Here are just some of the C&L comments to give a taste of the reaction. Gawker, which is in reality a satire/entertainment site, but very left,ran the story and the comments were also anti-Cheney but with a less venomous tone.
But we can be assured that if Palin ever runs for office, especially the presidency she will take her well earned place as the instigator of froth and gibber leftist madness. The entire post and comments is AT THIS LINK
Above the Clouds — 7/29/12 10:53am
. . . after "a few beers" shot his friend in the face with a shotgun then later sent the wife of the friend out to lie about it. An honorable man that Cheney. And a ghoul.
Tax the Rich — 7/29/12 10:13am
It was a bigger mistake to pick you.
Oh wait, you picked yourself.
You are without a doubt, the most evil psychotic Vice President we ever had, and that includes Aaron Burr, the murderer.
Oh wait, you picked yourself.
You are without a doubt, the most evil psychotic Vice President we ever had, and that includes Aaron Burr, the murderer.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
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