Tuesday, December 20, 2016

NEXT TRY! Overthrow Trump's Win At Congressional Electoral Vote Count 1/6/17

UPDATE 1/6/17;

The diehards (Video) actually attempted two attacks on Donald Trump being confirmed as president but to no avail;

US Electoral College Vote Confirms Trump

Congress certified Donald Trump's presidential victory on Friday over the objections of a handful of House Democrats, with Vice-President Joe Biden pronouncing, "It is over."
House Democrats objected to the votes from at least 10 states, raising issues of voter suppression as well as American intelligence showing that Russia tried to sway the election in favour of Trump. In each case, their objections were denied because they didn't have the support of any senators.
All 538 electors met in their respective state capitals in December to cast their votes. Friday's vote count made it official. Biden presided over the count in his role as president of the Senate.
Trump finished with 304 electoral votes and Democrat Hillary Clinton got 227. There were seven protest votes for other candidates. It takes 270 Electoral College votes to win the presidency.
As expected, Mike Pence was elected vice-president.
Trump and Pence are to be sworn in on Jan. 20.

'There can be no debate'

As the votes were announced for state after state, Democratic members of the House stood up to object. But in each case, no Democratic senator would join them, and Biden cut them off.
"There can be no debate," Biden said repeatedly.
Under federal law, if at least one senator and one House member object to the vote from any state, the House and Senate will meet separately to debate the merits of the objection.
Toward the end of the count, Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., pleaded for a senator to join her in objecting.
"Is there one United States senator who will join me in this letter of objection?" Waters said to boos from Republicans. None did.
Several protesters were ejected from the public gallery as the vote count concluded.

1. "House Democrats are weighing a formal challenge to Donald Trump’s election on Friday"

Several House Democrats are weighing a formal challenge to Donald Trump’s election on Friday, when Congress meets in joint session to certify Trump’s Electoral College victory.
Reps. Ed Perlmutter of Colorado, Bobby Scott of Virginia, Rep. John Conyers of Michigan and Jamie Raskin of Maryland are among a group of Democrats eyeing challenges.

Members have the right to lodge those protests when Congress officially counts the electoral votes on Friday. But for the protests to have any effect on the proceedings, they’ll need to secure the backing of at least one senator, and it’s unclear whether any Senate Democrats are weighing a similar challenge.

2. "At least 50 Trump electors ineligible in Electoral Vote count tomorrow"
More than 50 Electoral College members who voted for Donald Trump were ineligible to serve as presidential electors because they did not live in the congressional districts they represented or held elective office in states legally barring dual officeholders.

That stunning finding is among the conclusions of an extensive 1,000-plus page legal briefing prepared by a bipartisan nationwide legal team for members of Congress who are being urged to object to certifying the 2016 Electoral College results on Friday.

“Trump’s ascension to the presidency is completely illegitimate,” said Ryan Clayton of Americans Take Action, who is promoting the effort. “It’s not just Russians hacking our democracy. It’s not just voter suppression at unprecedented levels. It is also [that] there are Republicans illegally casting ballots in the Electoral College, and in a sufficient number that the results of the Electoral College proceedings are illegitimate as well.”

As per the Twelfth Amendment to the Constitution the President-Elect is not formally confirmed in that role until a Joint Session of Congress meets as set out below.

The butt hurt leftist diehards have tried and failed with a number of hopeless ruses to stop Trump's election so far, all of which have just made them look churlish and foolish with their "we are doing this to save America" nonsense, a pathetic cover for their desire to overturn the election for their obvious and blatantly partisan reasons.

1. Recounts in three key states that Trump won with no call for recounts in states that Clinton won closely. This was initiated by the Greens Jill Stein but supported by the DNC. 

A complete failure in the courts in two states and in the one case where a recount took place Trump increased  his election night totals. This nonsense was funded by desperate Dem's.

2. Pressure, often of a violent nature, put on Electors to change their support for Trump to either get Trump below 270 Electoral votes, thus throwing the election into the House or calling for "caring for America Republicans to join with Dem Electors to put in a Republican "acceptable to both party's." This worked out so terribly for the conspirators that instead of Trump losing a large number of Electoral votes it was Hillary who lost  to the Sanders faction.

In the end eight "Faithless Electors" in Hawaii, Maine, Minnesota, Colorado and Washington either tried to or did (5) vote for someone else rather than Clinton. Only two in Texas did not vote for Trump.

But they are surely not done yet! Next up the plan would be to have two members of Congress, from their point of view ideally one Dem and one "Never Trump" Republican (a congressman and a senator as the law prescribes) to formally object to the Electoral College votes at the January 6th joint session of Congress.

If, as would seem ridiculous, Vice-President Biden allows such an objection or objections to go to debate the uproar from the public would be massive and the end result would be catastrophic both for the Democratic Party and the country. 

The grounds for "objections" are perfectly obvious.

1. Clinton had two point eight million more votes than trump so the American people really wanted her to be president

2. And of course "The Russian interfered in the election and if the had not Hillary would have won so she is the rightful president"

“Frankly, at this point, I'm wondering if Putin helped Trump win the Republican primary," Chris Suprun, a Texas elector who's been an outspoken critic, said before the voting began. In Rhode Island, electors passed a motion calling for an independent, bipartisan investigation into Russian intervention in the election as Congress debates whether the matter should be reviewed by Republican-led committees or as an independent probe.

The Republicans have a majority in both the House and Senate so any ensuing "debate" would be short lived and would quickly end yet another sad and pathetic last ditch scheme. 

However; (Throwing out the Texas slate would put Trump below 270)
"The next step in the process comes on January 6, when the members of Congress gather to certify the tally (304 to 227, thanks to the seven faithless electors). It is possible for lawmakers to object to a single elector, or to an entire state's electoral slate, if one representative and one senator sign a letter to that effect. So, that is likely to be the next straw that the anti-Trump forces grasp at. However, both the House and the Senate (which are, remember, controlled by the GOP) would have to vote to throw the electoral vote(s) out. One can see how Republican leadership would be tempted, since they would be choosing from the top three finishers, which would mean that they could replace Donald Trump with newly-anointed third-place finisher Colin Powell. "

But, it wouldn't be the last ditch-there is yet one more after this sad spectacle (if it actually takes place) but, more on that after January 6th!

NB;They've done it before;

"Progressive Democrats lead historic voting rights protest as Congress ratifies flawed 2004 Electoral College tally
A handful of progressive Democrats in the House and a lone Senator, Barbara Boxer of California, forced the Republican-dominated Congress to hear two hours of protest Thursday about how the 2004 presidential vote was replete with efforts to disenfranchise Democratic voters and suppress turnout in a torrent of tactics reminiscent of the Jim Crow era. 

“We have spent our lives fighting for things we believe in – always fighting to make our nation better,” Boxer told the joint session. “We have fought for social justice. We have fought for economic justice. We have fought for environmental justice. We have fought for criminal justice. Now we must add a new fight – the fight for electoral justice.” 

By invoking a law used twice since 1877, Rep. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones, D-OH, and Sen. Boxer, stopped Congress’ ratification of the 2004 Electoral College vote by challenging the Ohio results. That forced Vice President Dick Cheney, the presiding officer, to order each chamber to debate the merits of the Ohio vote for two hours. A week earlier, Cheney refused to accept a notice of deposition in a lawsuit challenging the results of 2004 Ohio presidential vote. "

Counting electoral votes 

The Twelfth Amendment mandates that the Congress assemble in joint session to count the electoral votes and declare the winners of the election. The session is ordinarily required to take place on January 6 in the calendar year immediately following the meetings of the presidential electors Since the Twentieth Amendment, the newly elected Congress declares the winner of the election. In elections before 1936, the outgoing Congress counted the electoral votes.
The meeting is held at 1:00 p.m. Eastern time in the Chamber of the U.S. House of Representatives.[3] The sitting Vice President is expected to preside, but in several cases the President pro tempore of the Senate has chaired the proceedings instead. The Vice President and the Speaker of the House sit at the podium, with the Vice President in the seat of the Speaker of the House. Senate pages bring in the two mahogany boxes containing each state's certified vote and place them on tables in front of the Senators and Representatives. Each house appoints two tellers to count the vote (normally one member of each political party). Relevant portions of the Certificate of Vote are read for each state, in alphabetical order. Members of Congress can object to any state's vote count, provided that the objection is supported by at least one member of each house of Congress. A successful objection will be followed by debate; however, objections to the electoral vote count are rarely raised, although it did occur during the vote count in 2001 after the close 2000 presidential election between Governor George W. Bush of Texas and the Vice President of the United States, Al Gore. Vice President Gore, who as Vice President was required to preside over his own Electoral College defeat (by five electoral votes), denied the objections, all of which were raised only by several House members and would have favored his candidacy, after no Senators would agree to jointly object. If there are no objections or all objections are overruled, the presiding officer declares the result of the vote and states who is elected President and Vice President. The Senators then depart from the House Chamber.

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